Board of Directors Nominations is now open

[Bill Strong]

ChampCar Endurance Series Board Of Directors Nomination

Bruce Mills (Dec 2021)
Jerry Enger (Dec 2021)
Michael Chisek - Resigned August 24, 2021

The terms for Bruce Mills (Vice President) #010222, Jerry Enger #000282, end on December 31st of this year.  Michael Chisek submitted his resignation from the BOD. Their seats are the ones up for re-election and when filled will serve until December 31st, 2023.  Bruce Mills and Jerry Enger are eligible to run again and can be nominated like any other member.
 
Fill out your name and member number.  Then at the bottom, fill out the name and member number of the person you'd like to nominate to the Board of Directors.  Keep in mind that we will contact each nominee to make sure they are OK with being a candidate. 

Simple rules:
1.  You can't nominate yourself.
2.  You can only nominate one person.

All nominations are due by Friday, October 15th.  To keep from having 574 different nominees, a nominee must be named by at least five members to qualify.  We will compile all the nominations and put the top ten nominees on the November 1st ballot.  Elections are over on December 1st, 2021. We will announce the winners on December 15th, 2021, and the three winners will take office on January 1, 2023.
 
Please contact me with any questions and comments at board@champcar.org
 
All the best -
E. Tyler Pedersen
Board Chair
ChumpCar International, Inc.

 

Link to the nomination page - https://forms.gle/7nmApcP37PH1J48w5

 

 

[Bill Strong]

I would like to publicly thank Mike Chisek for his decade of service to the club.

He did more for this club than most of you will ever know. He will be missed.
But, he is on another path in life and will do well with that. 
 

Gonna miss you Mike.

[Snake]

In the past when there's been a vacancy the next up in the last vote has been installed onto the BOD.   Why is the club not following that procedure here?   Who would that be?   Mike was just reelected so his seat would not be up correct?

Edited September 3, 2021 by Snake

[mcoppola]

^^^good question. I didn’t think about that. Not sure of the reasoning. 

Edited September 3, 2021 by mcoppola

[Ian]

17 hours ago, Snake said:

In the past when there's been a vacancy the next up in the last vote has been installed onto the BOD.   Why is the club not following that procedure here?   Who would that be?   Mike was just reelected so his seat would not be up correct?

 

Probably because there was a vote coming up anyway.  And the runner up was Roger, who's already been moved up, so they'd be looking at the second runner up, and that gets pretty convoluted as the next 3 people were only separated by a vote or 2 IIRC.  Makes more sense to just vote again.

[JDChristianson]

Its worked out in the past, but I really thought there would be some sort of special election for the open seat.   Or at least a temp appointment until the next election cycle.

 

[Chris Huggins]

Posted on space books also.

 

Champcar BOD update:

The nomination window is open for 2 more weeks (October 15)

The staff updated us this morning, and we have two members with >5 nominations.

The BOD has three open slots this year!

Only 28 members have participated at this point, out of ~4000.

Any member can nominate one other member to be in the election.  A member must receive 5 nominations to be on the ballot.  To submit a nomination you will need your CC ID and the nominee’s CC ID.

Please remind your teammates to participate in this process if they are interested.

Regards, 
Chris

 

From the official Email:

The terms for Bruce Mills (Vice President) #010222, Jerry Enger #000282, end on December 31st of this year. Michael Chisek submitted his resignation from the BOD. Their seats are the ones up for re-election and when filled will serve until December 31st, 2023. Bruce Mills and Jerry Enger are eligible to run again and can be nominated like any other member.
 
Fill out your name and member number. Then at the bottom, fill out the name and member number of the person you'd like to nominate to the Board of Directors. Keep in mind that we will contact each nominee to make sure they are OK with being a candidate. 

Simple rules:
1. You can't nominate yourself.
2. You can only nominate one person.

All nominations are due by Friday, October 15th. To keep from having 351 different nominees, a nominee must be named by at least five members to qualify. We will compile all the nominations and put the top ten nominees on the November 1st ballot. Elections are over on December 1st, 2021. We will announce the winners on December 15th, 2021, and the three winners will take office on January 1, 2023.

Link to the nominations page - https://forms.gle/7nmApcP37PH1J48w5
 
Please contact me with any questions and comments at board@champcar.org
 

 

 

Point being, we need at least one more person nominated to fill the open seats.

[55mini]

^^^^^^^ So it looks like not much interest in being a BOD if what is posted is correct. Kind of sad to see the lack of interest in helping keep the ship on track.

I hope a few more take a step forward and join the election process.

 

[turbogrill]

I just don't people know about it. I didn't see the facebook post about this? Was there one?

 

Also you have to login to see your membership number, would be nice if you got that on email when you renewed.

 

People are lazy and some of them might never login or remember their password.

[mcoppola]

45 minutes ago, 55mini said:

^^^^^^^ So it looks like not much interest in being a BOD if what is posted is correct. Kind of sad to see the lack of interest in helping keep the ship on track.

I hope a few more take a step forward and join the election process.

 

Perhaps if we quit raking the BoD over the coals and accusing members of serving solely for their own interests, there might be more folks willing to serve the club.

I'll be the first to admit that even as a TAC member, I don't always agree with decisions made, but I've never questioned their integrity or motives.

 

I know a few BoD members (and TAC members) that are really soured by some of what's gone on, and frankly burned out from it. 

Notice some of them don't frequent these forums much any more? 

I got away for a while when folks questioned my motives too - or I got tired of the complaints about how F'ed up we are. But in the spirit of helping others, that's why some of us volunteer for these responsibilities... 

just sayin....

[55mini]

1 hour ago, mcoppola said:

Perhaps if we quit raking the BoD over the coals

Mike I hear you and fully agree. I was really trying to see if we could generate some new interest.

 

Being on the BOD has to be a hard place to be at times, but everyone of them needs to be thanked for their efforts and help.

You are right about not always agreeing with some things of recent times but one has to understand the full consequences and long term effects.

[Team Infiniti]

1 hour ago, mcoppola said:

Perhaps if we quit raking the BoD over the coals and accusing members of serving solely for their own interests, there might be more folks willing to serve the club.

I'll be the first to admit that even as a TAC member, I don't always agree with decisions made, but I've never questioned their integrity or motives.

 

I know a few BoD members (and TAC members) that are really soured by some of what's gone on.

Being a potential, viable, nominee here, you hit the nail on the head of why I may not go farther into the process.

 

This is supposed to be fun, being a lightning rod for folks that will never be happy with any decision ever made could take the fun out of it quickly.

[hotrod]

I think I'm one of the two being nominated. And I look forward to running. I've got some pretty thick skin from being involved in other racing organizations and I'm not afraid to say my piece and stick up for what I believe is right.

I do care about ChampCar as it's giving me the opportunity to run at the race tracks where before I was only there as a mechanic and not a driver. 

Would like to do my part to see that ChampCar goes down the correct path so others can enjoy racing at these tracks as I do.

My membership number is 014806 if you care to give me a nomination. 

Bernie Myers

Edited October 1, 2021 by hotrod

[Ian]

27 minutes ago, hotrod said:

I think I'm one of the two being nominated. And I look forward to running. I've got some pretty thick skin from being involved in other racing organizations and I'm not afraid to say my piece and stick up for what I believe is right.

I do care about ChampCar as it's giving me the opportunity to run at the race tracks where before I was only there as a mechanic and not a driver. 

Would like to do my part to see that ChampCar goes down the correct path so others can enjoy racing at these tracks as I do.

My membership number is 014806 if you care to give me a nomination. 

Bernie Myers

 

There in lies part of the issue.

 

We don't know who's been nominated.

 

Also, we can only nominate 1 person for 3 positions, 2 of which cannot be incombents.  The system definitely needs a bit of an overhaul.

[hotrod]

33 minutes ago, Ian said:

 

There in lies part of the issue.

 

We don't know who's been nominated.

 

Also, we can only nominate 1 person for 3 positions, 2 of which cannot be incombents.  The system definitely needs a bit of an overhaul.

I think October 15th they announce who is nominated. And I believe that Incumbents need to be renominated. 

Edited October 1, 2021 by hotrod

[enginerd]

Saw Chris' post on facebook about a lack of nominated Board candidates and decided to provide myself as another choice for one of the BoD spots.

 

 

Nathan Gardiner #CC007996

 

If you are reading this you probably know my car and history in the series so I won't go into much detail there. I considered BoD runs in the past but didn't follow through. This year I started in a new career which is affording me more free time: stay at home dad. With this new career I'll have the time to commit to the BoD and take on some work.

 

My 'pitch' is that (in votes / decisions) I will seek to maintain what makes ChampCar unique and appealing. To me, the unique and appealing aspects of ChampCar that we should preserve and focus on are summed up in two main points:

1) Wide variety of cars competing for the same podium. Miatas with great handling toe to toe with American muscle with great PWR. Mostly stock BMWs/Lexus neck and neck with highly modified hondas that are way faster than their humble factory roots. Cars from the 1980s competing with cars from the 2000s. You get the picture. This is our niche.

2) Accessible budget for 'average joes'. ChampCar is the cheapest path to fantastic endurance road racing.

 

To preserve this niche that ChampCar enjoys, we need to resist the urge to copy others. Too often I see posts to the effect of "XYZ does this and it works for them, we should do it too" or "if we adopt these rules from XYZ series, we will attract those racers". I think this is misguided. I have only ever raced ChampCar because I like the ruleset better than the other series. ChampCar will lose what makes it great and unique (and will lose racers like me) if it washes out the unique aspects by adopting rules / strategy from others.

 

Potential drawbacks to me being a board member:

- I race a BMW e30. Some forum members have voiced concern that there are already too many BMW racers on the board.

- No experience on a professional board / organization board / any kind of management board.

 

Thanks for your consideration. I will also post this in my own thread and answer questions that you may have there.

[Chris Huggins]

1 hour ago, Ian said:

 

There in lies part of the issue.

 

We don't know who's been nominated.

 

Also, we can only nominate 1 person for 3 positions, 2 of which cannot be incombents.  The system definitely needs a bit of an overhaul.

You only need 5 nominations to get on the ballot, hardly a big hurdle IMO.  You likely have 5 people in your driver pool.

 

 

once we start voting you will get more than 1 vote, as has been the case in years past.

[Ian]

5 hours ago, Chris Huggins said:

You only need 5 nominations to get on the ballot, hardly a big hurdle IMO.  You likely have 5 people in your driver pool.

 

 

once we start voting you will get more than 1 vote, as has been the case in years past.

 

I've no interest in running this year, though I've considered it.  I've barely enough time to wipe my own butt at the moment, never mind heard a bunch of internet troll cats.

 

I'd like to know who those members are that are interested in running, who are short on nominations, so I can use my 1 vote wisely.  With 2 weeks left, now is the time to release the possible candidates, and I see absolutely no reason to keep them secret.

 

6 hours ago, enginerd said:

Saw Chris' post on facebook about a lack of nominated Board candidates and decided to provide myself as another choice for one of the BoD spots.

 

 

Nathan Gardiner #CC007996

 

If you are reading this you probably know my car and history in the series so I won't go into much detail there. I considered BoD runs in the past but didn't follow through. This year I started in a new career which is affording me more free time: stay at home dad. With this new career I'll have the time to commit to the BoD and take on some work.

 

My 'pitch' is that (in votes / decisions) I will seek to maintain what makes ChampCar unique and appealing. To me, the unique and appealing aspects of ChampCar that we should preserve and focus on are summed up in two main points:

1) Wide variety of cars competing for the same podium. Miatas with great handling toe to toe with American muscle with great PWR. Mostly stock BMWs/Lexus neck and neck with highly modified hondas that are way faster than their humble factory roots. Cars from the 1980s competing with cars from the 2000s. You get the picture. This is our niche.

2) Accessible budget for 'average joes'. ChampCar is the cheapest path to fantastic endurance road racing.

 

To preserve this niche that ChampCar enjoys, we need to resist the urge to copy others. Too often I see posts to the effect of "XYZ does this and it works for them, we should do it too" or "if we adopt these rules from XYZ series, we will attract those racers". I think this is misguided. I have only ever raced ChampCar because I like the ruleset better than the other series. ChampCar will lose what makes it great and unique (and will lose racers like me) if it washes out the unique aspects by adopting rules / strategy from others.

 

Potential drawbacks to me being a board member:

- I race a BMW e30. Some forum members have voiced concern that there are already too many BMW racers on the board.

- No experience on a professional board / organization board / any kind of management board.

 

Thanks for your consideration. I will also post this in my own thread and answer questions that you may have there.

 

I'm torn here, because judging by you forum demeanor and car building/racing pedigree, I feel you could be an asset to the board.  But I also feel that we may have reached a saturation point as far as number of BOD members vs E30 racers is concerned.  It is not a death knell, but it does fall squarley in the con department.

 

Thank you for voicing your interest in running.

[Ray Franck]

Well you herd it here first,  I would like to serve on the board of directors and it seems I only need a couple more nominations to be eligible. If you have been around for a while you may know me but I have not been on this forum for awhile so many here may not. If nominated I will serve to the best of my ability and my platform will be stability.

  Campaign Slogan "Free Stuff Cost Real Money" stop the free stuff.

[Chris Huggins]

On 10/1/2021 at 8:57 PM, Ian said:

 

I've no interest in running this year, though I've considered it.  I've barely enough time to wipe my own butt at the moment, never mind heard a bunch of internet troll cats.

 

I'd like to know who those members are that are interested in running, who are short on nominations, so I can use my 1 vote wisely.  With 2 weeks left, now is the time to release the possible candidates, and I see absolutely no reason to keep them secret.

 

this is the email we got this morning.

Troy Truglio - 15
Ed Steinhuff - 7
Bernie Myers - 3
Ray Franck - 2
Jerry Enger - 1

 

Bill keeps this stuff to himself until the window is closed (for nominations and petition submissions), but today he misunderstood and thought the window closed so he sent the above.

 

 

On 10/1/2021 at 8:57 PM, Ian said:

 

 

I'm torn here, because judging by you forum demeanor and car building/racing pedigree, I feel you could be an asset to the board.  But I also feel that we may have reached a saturation point as far as number of BOD members vs E30 racers is concerned.  It is not a death knell, but it does fall squarley in the con department.

 

Thank you for voicing your interest in running.

 

Im out of fracks to give so I might as well comment on this too....

The car one drives only matters if you have zero faith that grown adults can be impartial and make reasonable decisions based on available information for the group.

 

if your an Internet commentator and assume everyone is out to get you and doing things for personal gain, then it doesn’t matter what car the board drives either really cause we’re still out to get you.

 

ive already used my nomination, but I’ve no concerns that Nathan can represent members without malicious intent.  He’s already proven he can win big races on a low budget, and I don’t see that changing regardless of what happens here.  He’s a smart guy, hopefully better at politics ans tolerating bs than I am.

 

 

also, there’s two e30 owners on the board out of 7 normally.  That’s 28%, which is pretty reasonable when compared to the number of entries.  If we had two 1954 studebaker owners, that would be unusual, but where we are at now fits the demographics of the club pretty well.  (33% Miata, 33% bmw, 33% other)
 

it would be more fair to say that C class is over represented since every current board member-owner runs C class.

[Ian]

12 hours ago, Chris Huggins said:

 

this is the email we got this morning.

Troy Truglio - 15
Ed Steinhuff - 7
Bernie Myers - 3
Ray Franck - 2
Jerry Enger - 1

 

Bill keeps this stuff to himself until the window is closed (for nominations and petition submissions), but today he misunderstood and thought the window closed so he sent the above.

 

 

Thanks.  I've never understood why nomination numbers were/are kept secret.  What is there to lose/gain by hiding them?

 

12 hours ago, Chris Huggins said:

 

Im out of fracks to give so I might as well comment on this too....

The car one drives only matters if you have zero faith that grown adults can be impartial and make reasonable decisions based on available information for the group.

 

if your an Internet commentator and assume everyone is out to get you and doing things for personal gain, then it doesn’t matter what car the board drives either really cause we’re still out to get you.

 

ive already used my nomination, but I’ve no concerns that Nathan can represent members without malicious intent.  He’s already proven he can win big races on a low budget, and I don’t see that changing regardless of what happens here.  He’s a smart guy, hopefully better at politics ans tolerating bs than I am.

 

 

also, there’s two e30 owners on the board out of 7 normally.  That’s 28%, which is pretty reasonable when compared to the number of entries.  If we had two 1954 studebaker owners, that would be unusual, but where we are at now fits the demographics of the club pretty well.  (33% Miata, 33% bmw, 33% other)
 

it would be more fair to say that C class is over represented since every current board member-owner runs C class.

 

Considering the last decade of politics in this country, and especially the last 2 years, would a lack of faith in humanity really be that unfounded?  I don't truly believe anyone is 100% impartial.  That being said I'm not going to rule anyone out based on the car they drive, its just part of the consideration.

 

I don't believe anybody in this group is "out to get me" except maybe the guy behind me on track.  But that doesn't mean I don't consider the possibility that 3 of the 4 BOD members being E30 owners is at least a statistic of noteworthyness.

 

Isn't Nates car a B car now?

[Justin9]

Can I nominate more than 1 person? because the Ed/Ray card sounds good to me....

[Bill Strong]

No. read the rules. 

Posting the votes 1/2 way through also skews the election. But Chris is still young and probably does not know that.

[Bill Strong]

On 10/2/2021 at 4:51 PM, Justin9 said:

Can I nominate more than 1 person? because the Ed/Ray card sounds good to me....

 

 

Just to confirm... The BOD President posted this...
Simple rules:
1.  You can't nominate yourself.
2.  You can only nominate one person.

[Bill Strong]

On 10/1/2021 at 11:01 AM, turbogrill said:

I just don't people know about it. I didn't see the facebook post about this? Was there one?

 

Also you have to login to see your membership number, would be nice if you got that on email when you renewed.

 

People are lazy and some of them might never login or remember their password.

 

I have known my member number and passwords since we converted to the club way of doing business. lol.