morganf Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) Has to be the Geo Tracker at 300pt, twice the VPI of a CRV but with only 11gal tank and 90hp. Also not worth mentioning it's 4x4 stance and no one is racing that or using the engine for a swap. Edited October 26, 2021 by morganf 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginerd Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, morganf said: Has to be the Geo Tracker at 300pt, twice the VPI of a CRV but with only 11gal tank and 90hp. Also not worth mentioning it's 4x4 stance and no one is racing that or using the engine for a swap. It looks so cute! Petition for a VPI reduction, I bet it hasn't been looked at since 2014? I think negative 100 pts. would be fair. Edited October 26, 2021 by enginerd 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Build one for the Atlanta snow races. Guaranteed to never snow on that weekend again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommytipover Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Gotta be faster than a 200 point MR2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted October 26, 2021 Administrators Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 maybe since the fast MR2s are swaps. even the red MR2 at this past weekends road america race has a swapped 4 banger. you put that at less than 0 points and i am going to scream like crazy for the Opel GT point reduction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bill Strong said: you put that at less than 0 points and i am going to scream like crazy for the Opel GT point reduction. That reminds me. I forgot to request the Delta 88 be put back on the list at the 75 points it was before being removed. 0 point car with an auto and 27+ gallons of gas. Guarantee it would smoke that minivan that was out there his weekend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Bill Strong Posted October 26, 2021 Administrators Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, Bandit said: That reminds me. I forgot to request the Delta 88 be put back on the list at the 75 points it was before being removed. 0 point car with an auto and 27+ gallons of gas. Guarantee it would smoke that minivan that was out there his weekend. There is a standing order that I can run whatever swap I want in the car. Any. No limit. But. I have to win the race. If I don't win, I can never race the car in ChampCar again. I know you MFs would never let me finish the race. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bill Strong said: There is a standing order that I can run whatever swap I want in the car. Any. No limit. But. I have to win the race. If I don't win, I can never race the car in ChampCar again. I know you MFs would never let me finish the race. Stab an aluminum block 5.3 in there. If you can make the rear end live it'd be about like a '65 Cobra. Probably faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morganf Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bill Strong said: There is a standing order that I can run whatever swap I want in the car. Any. No limit. But. I have to win the race. If I don't win, I can never race the car in ChampCar again. I know you MFs would never let me finish the race. Maybe this has happened already that's why you don't race anymore or at least that should be the story..... Edited October 26, 2021 by morganf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Technical Advisory Committee mcoppola Posted October 26, 2021 Technical Advisory Committee Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Bill Strong said: There is a standing order that I can run whatever swap I want in the car. Any. No limit. But. I have to win the race. If I don't win, I can never race the car in ChampCar again. I know my wheel bearings and hubs would never let me finish the race. FIFY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbogrill Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) I am really upset they don't have the Aztek in the list. It should be negative million points just because it's so ugly. They should add that one instead of arguing in the other thread Edited October 27, 2021 by turbogrill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, turbogrill said: I am really upset they don't have the Aztek in the list. It should be negative million points just because it's so ugly. They should add that one instead of arguing in the other thread 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Bandit said: That reminds me. I forgot to request the Delta 88 be put back on the list at the 75 points it was before being removed. 0 point car with an auto and 27+ gallons of gas. Guarantee it would smoke that minivan that was out there his weekend. It is still on the online VPI lookup. Along with all the Buicks and Cadillacs that disappeared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, karman1970 said: It is still on the online VPI lookup. Along with all the Buicks and Cadillacs that disappeared. Yep. And will take a 290hp/410 torque Gen 6 454 for 50 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, Bandit said: Yep. And will take a 290hp/410 torque Gen 6 454 for 50 points. Duramax and an Allison with a big honking turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 Just now, karman1970 said: Duramax and an Allison with a big honking turbo 454 is about 400 pounds lighter than the Dmax. The car is already weight challenged. hah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADVNTURR Posted October 27, 2021 Report Share Posted October 27, 2021 On 10/26/2021 at 10:34 AM, morganf said: Has to be the Geo Tracker at 300pt, twice the VPI of a CRV but with only 11gal tank and 90hp. Also not worth mentioning it's 4x4 stance and no one is racing that or using the engine for a swap. I don't know, a 385point Jeep Cherokee with the 4.Slow in D class seems a bit off to me. At least it has a huge tank but it's also solid front axle so hopefully you're ready to fab or destroy front tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mender Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 1999 Nissan Frontier at 500 points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Infiniti Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 On 10/27/2021 at 9:45 PM, mender said: 1999 Nissan Frontier at 500 points? Who wouldn’t want .3 L more in their old 300z? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Not sure if it is bazar but I was looking at Dodge Dakota's since a Gen I can be had w/ a 5.2, 5 speed, LSD and if you ordered the LSD you got extra fuel capacity 24 gal, larger brakes and a bigger radiator. Now I thought hey 200 points? Nope 300 same as a C3. WTH??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoblue06 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 3 hours ago, TiredBirds said: Not sure if it is bazar but I was looking at Dodge Dakota's since a Gen I can be had w/ a 5.2, 5 speed, LSD and if you ordered the LSD you got extra fuel capacity 24 gal, larger brakes and a bigger radiator. Now I thought hey 200 points? Nope 300 same as a C3. WTH??? Did they have those options in 1987? 100 points! Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 16 minutes ago, mgoblue06 said: Did they have those options in 1987? 100 points! Lol. not sure. I think the 1st V8 was 89 in the "Shelby" version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karman1970 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 4 hours ago, TiredBirds said: Not sure if it is bazar but I was looking at Dodge Dakota's since a Gen I can be had w/ a 5.2, 5 speed, LSD and if you ordered the LSD you got extra fuel capacity 24 gal, larger brakes and a bigger radiator. Now I thought hey 200 points? Nope 300 same as a C3. WTH??? When that value was established, the C3 was still 500 points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoblue06 Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 5 hours ago, TiredBirds said: not sure. I think the 1st V8 was 89 in the "Shelby" version. But it’s soo heavy on the swap calculator you can get v8 power for cheap points. 22gal fuel tank was an option that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiredBirds Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 On 10/30/2021 at 7:09 PM, mgoblue06 said: But it’s soo heavy on the swap calculator you can get v8 power for cheap points. 22gal fuel tank was an option that year. Dakota dry shipping weight is 3300. You can make it about 2700 as raced I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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