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I guess the Chump crew's internet/cell connections aren't working in Canada or something, so I'll post a little update that came to me via text.

Mealtime won the first race

Lordmulgath's E36 is reduced to 3rd-gear only.

Johnda Deere's 93 Civic "had some issues"

There were "lots of bmws"

That's all I know, anyone else have data from the track?

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This was my first Chumpcar event and it was a very positive experience for me. I was fortunate enough to drive both the Slimer BMW and the Two.Slo Golf during the event and had a blast in both cars. A synchro issue on the BMW meant I had to drive around in 3rd on Sunday but the car had enough power to compensate somewhat. The VW certainly lacked power but was a great fun in the corners and I had a few good battles with faster cars throughout the weekend. I'm looking forward to plenty more driving. Thanks Phil and Graham!

PS: Did anyone from the Shannonville race have their own transponder? I would really like to see the lap times for both of these teams.

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Thanks to all the folks at Chump car for a great event and thanks to all the other drivers for a good clean race! Had a fantastic time driving the "Constipation racing" Gulf Oil liveried VW and would just like to give a shout out to my team mates Dan, Justin and Jamie for a great job and to say thanks for putting up with me(the oldest and slowest of the team), and also to our team mates in our sister car, two.slo racing, Scott, John, Richard and Graham. Also Graham, thank you for giving me the opportunity to race on a road course for the first time, it has been on my bucket list for a number of years, and as I read once, "Better to have raced one day then to spectate for a lifetime". Hammer down and keep the shiny side up!

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Shannonville was our first ChumpCar race, and we had a great time running against all those six-cylinder BMWs with our four-cylinder. This was a whole lot of fun - we enjoyed the racing, the people, and the event. It was great to be able to sit in the stands and see almost all of the track. Definitely will come back to Shannonville to play.

It was our first outing for this car (#42 BMW) and we had fun in spite of a few teething pains. The car was still running and drove on the trailer at the end of the weekend, so we were happy.

Thanks to Mike and the other ChumpOfficials for making it happen. We've raced with a bunch of other organizations, and this was noteworthy for the good-natured approach of the folks at tech, registration, etc.

-Karl

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We had eight happy drivers this year instead of four with the second car - which worked remarkably well considering its first time on the track was Friday afternoon. we didnt quite acheive the mechanical perfection I wanted but we were still running strong on Sunday at the checkered with both cars. Big thanks especially to Dan and Justin for throwing the wrenches.

Richard - yes that was my own transponder so I should be able to get you lap times when they are posted.

However, the question is how do you get lap times for rental transponders? I'd like to see the #12 car times as well.

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I'd be remiss if I didn't thank all those who got me on the track against competition for the first time since about 1993! Thanks to Graham and Two.Slo for the ride the car was slow but phenomenal brakes and good tires afforded me the opportunity to chase some cars down and put up a bit of a fight. Scott, John and Graham again for being great co-drivers and ever better racing conversation. All the guys at Constipation Racing; Wayne, Justin, Jamie and especially Dan who made sure I was always buckled in, answered all my dumb questions and made sure both cars ran right to the end.

Thanks to Team Slimer and Phil who put an amazing BMW underneath me that was only hampered by the 380 treadwear rating on the tires. It was still great fun to chunk them up on Saturday and I learned a little lesson about being smoother by running around in third gear for an hour on Sunday on Sumitomo's. My 2 14 0 was all car!

Thanks to the organizer's! There were only three of them doing everything and the whole weekend went very smoothly.

Congrats to the winners: Rising Sun on Saturday ( I think) and Red Green on Sunday. Meal Time made a few breakfasts of me and they looked unbeatable both days.

Thanks to all the competitors who answered my many and foolish questions regarding mechanical issues. I've learned plenty about driving over the years but not a single damn thing about repairing a race car!

Lastly, to Andrew, without whom Two.Slo would have no soul!!

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Also a huge shout out and thanks to Sailun Tire and Dynamic Tire for providing us with Sailun's Atrezzo Z4+ tires for the weekend. With a treadwear rating of 380 they were very predictable and had consistent grip considering they are strictly a street tire with full tread.

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Thanks from Team Probenator for another well run event this year. We had a blast, with our primary goal being able to finish the race both days with no major technical issues and we accomplished that. Last year we sat out the entire day on Saturday chasing a multitude of issues, this year we got to drive and we got rewarded with a 3rd place finish on Sunday. Hope to see alot of you out at Beaverun in July and TMP in August!

P.S. If anyone is looking for some missing feathers from their Seagull, feel free to drop by and clean them out of our engine bay.

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P.S. If anyone is looking for some missing feathers from their Seagull, feel free to drop by and clean them out of our engine bay.

I've seen debris flags displayed before, but this was the first time I've seen one displayed for hamburgers and french fries scattered along the track.

Very entertaining, and I hope the tow truck crew eventually got to eat lunch. The seagulls were definitely enjoying it (well, for a little while...)

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Thanks Richard for reminding me to thank Andrew! I feel like such a heel for not acknowledging his many contributions to both teams from mounting cameras to making sure we all had water, etc., the team would not have run as well without him. :)

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P.S. If anyone is looking for some missing feathers from their Seagull, feel free to drop by and clean them out of our engine bay.

:lol: that reminds me, i'll have to post the on car video of the seagull 'flying into' the Johnda Deere. We were watching videos from our gopro that night and got a kick out of the seagull clip since nobody knew which car hit it...our driver completely forgot it happened. Luckily it just missed going in the hole from the front right headlight. That would've been messy...

Thanks to the chumpcar crew for putting on a great race once again this year. Congrats to Mealtime, Rising Sun and Probenator...you guys deserved it!

See you guys at Beaverun next month!

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I've seen debris flags displayed before, but this was the first time I've seen one displayed for hamburgers and french fries scattered along the track.

Better along the track than inside the car -- ISTR someone had that problem a while back.... ;)

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Mopar too bad for you guys, your car was fast! Hope you have better luck at the next one. Jondha, thanks for the video, pretty cool. Anybody else have some video to post? I love that in-car stuff.

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Mopar too bad for you guys, your car was fast! Hope you have better luck at the next one. Jondha, thanks for the video, pretty cool. Anybody else have some video to post? I love that in-car stuff.

yeah man, we kept it in 4th the whole way round the track. Clutch worked great around the neighborhood but once up to speed it had disengagement issues.

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Here ya go, John - proof that at least one team doesn't have broken fingers! :)

We’ve been looking forward to jumping into the CCWS fray since one of our team members went to last year’s Shannonville race to crew for some friends. He came back more or less foaming at the mouth about how much fun it was, and insisted that we were definitely doing this. So, we recruited a few other friends with racing and car building experience, and formed a team.

We decided to build a 1991 BMW 318iS, partly because I happened to have it languishing in the driveway, and partly because we like the way these cars handle. This particular one was a little rough, having a bit of rust and some crash damage. I had bought it for $300, intending to use it for parts, but heck, any parts car can become a race car with a little effort, right? We did consider that we might be bringing a 4-cylinder knife to a 6-cylinder gunfight, but we were hoping the 4-cylinder would handle well, and be easy on consumables (brakes, tires, gas). Turns out that we were wrong – after seeing the black Jag, we realized we’d brought a 4-cylinder knife to a 12-cylinder gunfight :)

Because the car had been sitting for almost two years, it needed a thorough going-through to get roadworthy again. We replaced rusted brake lines, rehabilitated the clutch hydraulics, added new muffler hangers, replaced leaking seals, scavenged various bits from other parts cars, and welded in the best cage we could. We installed a good used race seat and an FIA-legal harness, a window net, an electrical master switch and a fire extinguisher. The fuel pump expired when we tried to get it running, so that was replaced. We kept the windshield, but replaced all the other windows with polycarbonate, per CCWS rules. Would have been nice to leave all the windows out, but this car will have to live outside, so it needs to be sealed from the elements. The previous owner had replaced the original front bumper with a cheap fiberglass replica which was cracked and broken (and we were worried that bits of it might fly off and end up on the track), so we nabbed a reasonably intact front bumper off a parts car (black car with red front valance and white bumper cover – nice and Chumpy...)

Our plan was to run the car at local autocrosses to shake it down, and ideally get to Watkins Glen for some track time. The sheer amount of refurbishment needed prevented that, so we ended up just getting the thing back together and running. That is not the best way to prepare for an endurance race, but it was that or nothing, so we kept slogging away.

As we got down to the wire in the week before the race, we shifted focus to completing everything we absolutely had to have done in order to pass tech inspection and race. We rechecked the rule book, and made sure that we had everything required per the rules. The cage had to be welded all the way around at every junction, so a lot of holes were cut in the body to allow access, and then welded up once the tubes were completely done. This was a huge amount of work, but the end result is a very solid cage.

At 12:30 AM Friday I drove the car for the first time since I bought it – backed it out of the garage and loaded it on the trailer. Perhaps it has occurred to you that this didn’t allow much time for testing before leaving for the track? At 5:15 AM we pulled out of the driveway to meet up with the rest of the crew for the convoy to Shannonville. There was no delay at the border, and we rolled into Shannonville at about 9:30 AM Friday.

We unloaded, and got the car on track for testing right away. Good thing, too! In general the car was surprisingly good, but all four calipers were dragging somewhat, and we had what appeared to be fuel starvation issues. Oh, and the tachometer worked, but it was the only gauge that did.

Got the calipers freed up (using a borrowed C-clamp) and did a bunch of fuel delivery testing. Changed the fuel filter, and emptied the tank of 10+ gallons of two-year-old gasoline. We decided to go ahead and install an aftermarket water temperature sensor. Problem was we couldn’t get an aftermarket sensor into the stock location. So, we went with oil temperature. But, the gauge we had installed (out of a late ‘70s Scirocco) didn’t work with the new sensor. One of the Red Green team members was going to the local auto parts store, and picked up a new gauge for us, which worked just fine.

By Friday night we figured we had the car as good as it was going to be, and had managed to get some practice laps in at speed. It ran well, handled surprisingly well, considering we had no idea what the alignment was, and the brakes worked just dandy (pads and rotors courtesy of RACEShopper.com – shameless commercial plug here).

We took the car to tech, and passed with no problem whatsoever. After all our effort to make sure the car was 100%, the tech inspection was quick and easy. Definitely paid off to read and re-read the rulebook.

Saturday morning, we found that the car started to stutter and run out of fuel at perhaps the half-tank mark, so we had to readjust our fuel stop strategy accordingly. The ideal situation would be to minimize the number of fuel stops required, because of the 5-minute minimum stop when fuel is added. We were faced with making many (five or six) fuel stops, but it was definitely better than not racing, so that’s what we did. We were getting roughly an hour on each full tank, rather than the two hours per tank we wanted. Even so, the day went well, and we ended up 5th overall. We were delighted with those results.

Saturday evening we changed the oil, swapped brake pads, and rotated tires. The car had spit off the left front bearing dust cover somewhere on Saturday, so we made a new cover with aluminum foil (thanks, Van Winden Racing!) and gorilla tape. It held all day Sunday, and kept the wheel bearing grease where it needed to be. If only that was the only thing wrong with the car on Sunday...

At the end of our first stint on Sunday (a mere hour due to our fuel starvation issue) we came in to the pits in first place. This was, for us, astonishing and wonderful. I went out next, and the car was running very well at first. By the time I came in for fuel we were back up to third overall, but I had experienced a loss of power which was losing the car about 1000 rpm of top end. The power loss happened right when I caught the silver CRX and the Probenator, and I had to watch them just drive away as the car got slower and slower.

This problem (which we suspect is a fuel problem, but haven’t figured it out yet) got progressively worse as the day went on. We all took turns keeping the car moving, even though it was frustrating to keep losing power. We knew it wasn’t overheating or burning oil, so we decided to stay out as long as we could. On the last lap, it got so slow that our driver was afraid it had become a hazard. He came in to the pits not knowing they had just thrown the checkered flag, so we had him drive down pit lane to cross the finish line. Seeing the results yesterday, we now know we managed to hang on to 9th place, even though the car wouldn’t quite pull 2500 rpm at the end of the day.

All in all, it was a fantastic weekend, and the car worked far better than we had any right to expect, given zero miles of testing before we got to the track. All the team drivers did well, and we had fun comparing times and sharing pointers on how to get everybody faster.

We had great fun racing “crap cans†with ChumpCar, and we were impressed with the friendly atmosphere. I would recommend to anyone starting out and building a car – get some time on it before you get to the track. We knew this – we just underestimated how much work we had to get done in the time we had.

-Karl

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Nice writeup, Karl!

I would say that your experiences were a little better than typical, but similar to ours when we started(except our finishing positions weren't as good!) :) And the great thing is, you have a clear problem to address AND the confidence that once addressed, you can be competitive :D

Kudos!

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HA! sounds like the prep of my first endurance race. We had to push the car onto the trailer to take it to the track!

Glad you guys had fun. See you at TMP?

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HA! sounds like the prep of my first endurance race. We had to push the car onto the trailer to take it to the track!

Glad you guys had fun. See you at TMP?

Maybe! We're entered for Nelson Ledges, but we've got some work to do on the car, and right now all the team members are taking a little time to get their lives back.

We're going to get a little work done and have a pow-wow, and if everybody's up for it and the car actually runs we'll sign up for TMP.

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