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I believe this is the fourth sprint race on Sunday. Tom and Rich, you guys are prominent in the video!


/>http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=plcp&v=NPwTDIywB_s

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Sean...thanks so much for posting that video! That was awesome to watch. The driver in the CRX was our Rookie Driver Lance Guymon. This was the culmination of the entire weekend for him where he was finally able to put together the thousands and thousands of useless tips that Rich and I tried feeding him over the course of the event. B)

Also, I am surprised at how much less you guys are shifting in the Miata. I know driving the CRX we are shifting about 50% more than you guys. I guess we are geared in between you guys. We have to grab 2nd gear out of quite a few of the corners.

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The classes were AWESOME. In the Fast Four class in the second heat race, 5 of the 6 Fast Fours were duking it out for the entire 45 minutes!! There was less than 5 seconds separating the 5 cars at the end!

It was refreshing to finally know that you were racing somebody with pretty equal hardware.

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Weren't all the same cars (hardware) there that were running the enduro? Weren't they all on track at the same time? How is that different, just the start that keeps you bunched up with similar cars? Or less lap traffic because it's a shorter race? I haven't figured out what's so great about the sprint races yet. I can make up my own classes in my head if I want, I don't really care what the official results are, we rarely get a trophy anyway.

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ABR-Glen...I guess the real beauty in the classes is that now it is Official who you are racing against...even though, yes, we are all still out on the track at the same time. It was mentioned that if there is a big field, they would split the classes out into different run groups cutting the track traffic in 1/2. Now being able to keep track of who you are racing against in your head is easy enough, when you are running Sprints you are congratulated with $100 in ChumpChange for actually beating the other cars in your class! Now that is pretty neat. :wub:

So let's see...3 class wins in 6 races equals $300 off our next race...yup...I like Sprints!

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That's cool for other regions but the SE already runs balls out sprints in the form of 10, 14 and 24hr adventures. :)

That's neat

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In the one Sprint I was able to start, the three bmws were leading the way. It was an awesome 3 way battle. I had a near spin then handling felt weird and I was worried that something in rear suspension was off. I was no longer in contention for my class race with only 14 laps left so slowed down and moved out of way so Mialtimas and fast fours could battle uninhibited. No fueling, pit stop or such strategies, just racing. That said, I would prefer an enduro.

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So let's see...3 class wins in 6 races equals $300 off our next race...yup...I like Sprints!

That makes sense :)

Even though we have an E36 forged from pure Cheatonium, there are several local teams that are out of our league, we love to finish ahead of them when it happens, but we are happy to battle for non-podium spots with the others teams that are in the same boat. We don't need our own class to tell us we "won" when we beat those guys (not that the classes would ever break down that way anyway) we know who they are by now. Thanks for the info though, I'm sure we'll have a race with sprints to consider at some point and it will be very different for us since Chumpcar is the only real wheel to wheel racing anyone on our team has done.

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I can beat your Cheatonium E36 with a Honda or VW or Nissan in a 24-hour enduro race with better prep, strategy, fuel stops, team, etc. Even if all else is equal, if one or two of my drivers have superior kung fu, I win. 24, 14 or even 7 hours is a long time to run a car and anything can happen.

Shortening the race to 30 or 40 minutes eliminates a lot of variables and classes become much more relevant.

I doubt this is something you will see a lot of, and endurance racing will always be at the core of ChumpCar.

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Sadly it's the lower class cars like Holy Rollers, Slugworks, NNM, that are generally the hare to our tortoise, we just plod along and hope they break, in a short race they will probably beat us. On the other hand we would be in the same class as all the guys that already beat us in the long races and the variables that get eliminated in the sprints are the ones the usually help us. It does sound fun to be able to see and chase the cars you are racing for position with, people who came from sprint racing to chump probably know all about that, but it's a change for us. From a scientific perspective I guess we'll get to see just how inferior our driving really is without the other variables :unsure: Maybe we'll get to try out some sprints on New Year's Eve, all the talk is really tempting me, but it's too soon to start asking my drivers to commit, I have my fingers crossed though B)

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We have a moderately quick car that is very reliable, however, we have knuckle headed drivers that will be scheduled for a 1:30 stint in the car and come in for NO REASON after 1:00, park the car on pit lane, and walk around looking for his team. Um...hello...McFly, this is a Most Laps Wins kinda race. If the car is working, you have fuel, and you aren't tired...GET BACK ON THE TRACK! Nope...not our guy...walked around the pits for 20 minutes wondering where everybody went!?! LOL...so, with teammates like that, we TOTALLY LOVED the Sprint format.

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Sadly it's the lower class cars like Holy Rollers, Slugworks, NNM, that are generally the hare to our tortoise, we just plod along and hope they break, in a short race they will probably beat us.

In our case this is only true if this is the hare.

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Weren't all the same cars (hardware) there that were running the enduro? Weren't they all on track at the same time? How is that different, just the start that keeps you bunched up with similar cars? Or less lap traffic because it's a shorter race? I haven't figured out what's so great about the sprint races yet. I can make up my own classes in my head if I want, I don't really care what the official results are, we rarely get a trophy anyway.

The part I always enjoyed about the sprints is the heavy traffic in the start. It is one thing to battle one or two cars at top speed going around the track planning your pass, it is something wholly different to be in the middle of the pack headed full speed into turn 1 wondering if there is the grip in the marbles to make it. After the traffic shakes out, yes it it a lot like the enduro.

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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSwIP0bte_c

  Kinda like this?

 

Yup! Just like that, except on a track built for 2 wide running 4 wide! Both of my doors got rubbed going into turn 2 at Pueblo at the start!

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